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Did a little experimenting lately.I use two different kinds of mic preamps. I have two Focusrite Octopre LEs that sound great on everything - almost. I use these on my Protools HD rig.I also have a Mackie 1604 VLZ pro which I used to use on my old SONAR equipped, PC based DAW.I mic'ed up a guitar cab with the following signal chain.Strat = Ceriatone Plexi 50 = 2 Audix I5 mics =.= Mackie 1604 VLZ Pro.Believe it or not, this little mixer sounded really good. The guitar tone was smooth, not raspy at all. I have read lots of complaints about Mackie pres but in this case (hi-gain guitar) they sounded great.= Octopre LE.Very harsh sounding. Lot's of raspy tone that I could not EQ out. Radical mic placement changes did not affect the rasp.

These pres sound good on acoustic guitars and drums. They seem very bright which would account for the raspy tone on hi-gain guitars.I am no pro but I am realizing that the preamp can make or break a recording experience.I would like to hear about how your experience with different mic/preamp/instrument combinations. If you cant hear the difference between a Mackie and a Neve 1073, then you should just go ahead and use the Mackie.

No point in using gear that you cant 'hear'.Its like paying for 1080p when 480i looks the same to you. 1080p IS in fact clearer.But not everybody pays that much attention to details.This thread has no mention of A/D conversion quality at all, so that pretty much tells me the original poster has limited expirience.If you cant hear the horrible smearing in a Mackie preamp, you surely wont hear aliasing in a cheap A/D converter either. God only knows what your monitoring situation is.Preamps dont mean a whole lot on their own in the big picture. The whole signal chain, the room, the monitors, your ears, the way each person interprets sound, etcits all a huge can of worms that is really hard to describe in words.Basically, if you have crap gear, in a crap room, a 5000.00 dollar preamp isnt going to do much. If you cant hear the difference between a Mackie and a Neve 1073, then you should just go ahead and use the Mackie.

No point in using gear that you cant 'hear'.Its like paying for 1080p when 480i looks the same to you. 1080p IS in fact clearer.But not everybody pays that much attention to details.This thread has no mention of A/D conversion quality at all, so that pretty much tells me the original poster has limited expirience.If you cant hear the horrible smearing in a Mackie preamp, you surely wont hear aliasing in a cheap A/D converter either. God only knows what your monitoring situation is.Preamps dont mean a whole lot on their own in the big picture. The whole signal chain, the room, the monitors, your ears, the way each person interprets sound, etcits all a huge can of worms that is really hard to describe in words.Basically, if you have crap gear, in a crap room, a 5000.00 dollar preamp isnt going to do much. I have several different high end mic pre's.

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Yes there's a difference, but when compared to something in the mid range or lower end quality wise it's not as apparent as say challenging an Indy race car on an open road with your Prius.I find quality differences in high end mic pre's to be subtle and specific to the task of what you're trying to record. Where you really hear the difference is in the accumulation of multiple tracks. Now that's a huge difference. Hearing a single guitar track in the context of the mix and noticing a difference between it being recorded with a Mackie or Neve is not as huge as a whole record recorded through a Mackie compared to a Neve. Click to expand.I'll preface this by saying we didn't set out to do a 1:1 preamp comparison. The gear comparision was more of a side-bet to the instructional DVD.

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Specifically, we set out to test industry standard gear vs. Mics/pres more commonly used in home studios. The 'expensive' song used EQ/compression, plus 'good' mics (Brauner KHE on vocals, for instance).

The 'Cheap' song was 57's on (almost) everything into an older mackie 1604. Radar converters on both songs, btw.By the way, if you want the ultimate in preamp comparisons, I recommend 3daudio.com 'Preamps in Paradise'.Anyhow.these were the preamps we used on the 'expensive' song.Kick: Gordon Audio model 3Snare Top: Gordon Audio model 3Snare bottom: DakingHat: Focusrite ISA220Toms: DakingBass: Pendulum Audio QuartetElec Guitar: GordonAc gtr: GordonKeys: (none - all virtual)Vocal: Gordon. I agree wholeheartedly with the posters above who talk about a whole mix with cheap gear. I used to record into a Roland VS1680. I had a hard time getting what I was hearing in the room. When all was tracked, everything was just too full of noise.I purchased a G4 and ProTools TDM system and Great River Pre-Amp. Now, the songs sound great.

I think it's just not as much noise.something about the cheaper Roland mic-pres and A/D/A converters made everything sound lilke it was fighting for space in a crowded room. It's like the ProTools TDM setup and Great River mic pre give each sound it's own space.and that's before the mix!

It's like, the sounds have more clairity, without being as in your face or digitally harsh. When I first started recording a number of years ago, I was using one of the original Mackie 1604 before moving to a 1604 VLZ when they became available. In my quest to improve my recordings, a number of years later I upgraded all of my gear and it made a huge difference.

My signal chain now usually is: Michael Tuttle Guitar Mogami Platinum cable Budda Amplifier (SD 45 or SD 30) Great River ME1-NV Prism Sound Orpheus. I also have 8 channels of Millennia HV-3 which sound beautiful also. I often times end up back with the Great River for guitars, it sounds amazing.Another thing to keep in mind is something as simple as mic placement. Moving a mic 1/2 an inch can be the difference between smooth and raspy. It can be a very easy fix to a tone problem that is sometimes overlooked. If you cant hear the difference between a Mackie and a Neve 1073, then you should just go ahead and use the Mackie. No point in using gear that you cant 'hear'.Its like paying for 1080p when 480i looks the same to you.

1080p IS in fact clearer.But not everybody pays that much attention to details.This thread has no mention of A/D conversion quality at all, so that pretty much tells me the original poster has limited expirience.If you cant hear the horrible smearing in a Mackie preamp, you surely wont hear aliasing in a cheap A/D converter either. God only knows what your monitoring situation is.Preamps dont mean a whole lot on their own in the big picture. The whole signal chain, the room, the monitors, your ears, the way each person interprets sound, etcits all a huge can of worms that is really hard to describe in words.Basically, if you have crap gear, in a crap room, a 5000.00 dollar preamp isnt going to do much. Click to expand.Is this the Todd, I used to know, who played/plays flamenco/used to play with Craig? There is a thread over at gearslutz.com, where at a certain point, it has been established that there is a point of diminishing returns on converters(there are several threads on the topic).

If you have dog-whistle/audiophile/perfect pitch hearing, good for you. I hate to tell you, a lot of the population doesn't much care (MP3's). You might feel that your best result occurs using audiophile grade stuff. I just want to get it on disc with a minimum of mistakes/the right feel, and generally find that there are sufficient quantities of lower end gear, with enough of an accuracy to reproduce my songwriting, for others to get what I am doing. Every now and then, I am told I actually sound good. It's really not my fault. One last thing: Room treatment is the biggest difference in the recording process, and the skill set with the gear being used.

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Oh, almost forgot: I use a Rane MS1b pre. They were used to record 'Two Against Nature' by the Steely Dan, according to Roger Nichols, who by happenstance, lives in the neighborhood. Have a good day. These mic pre arguments are funny.There are so many more important things in the chain to consider first before the pre's. The room you are recording in and the source you are recording.I love how people spend thousands on high end pre's but then they record in a small carpeted room and wonder why stuff doesn't sound good.My opinion is that as long as the pre isn't hurting your sound, you are doing pretty good.I have recorded stuff in an excellent sounding room with a Behringer mixer that sounded ten times better than a recording done in a. sounding room with John Hardy's, Drawmers and Syteks.